Talk:Stronger Stimulant

3-2-0 BBrew buff also to 4-2-0 SS?
Does the 3-2-0 BBrew buff in Version 24.0 also affect 4-2-0 SS? Is it now 55 shots instead of 50 for 4-2-0 now? Anyone wanna test this? Qwertyxp2000 II (talk &#124; contribs) 10:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Tested with 205 Sniper buffed by 420 Alch vs 55 0 spacing Rainbows. The brew buff does last 55 shots. With 56 Rainbows, the last one pops into Reds, showing the buff wore off MitchOfTarcoola (talk) 09:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Sounda right. Qwertyxp2000 II (talk &#124; contribs) 10:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Fixing The Overpowered Nature of Stronger Stimulant - An Idea
After seeing the chart on Reddit about which tower crosspaths are considered overpowered/underpowered, and seeing how far and away top path Alchemist is, I think I may have found the root of the problem and a solution for it...

Stronger Stimulant. It's TOO strong a stimulant. It just DOMINATES its upgrade path to the point that it is almost the ONLY reason people purchase an Alchemist. Think about it, how many people playing this game think about going top path Alchemist JUST for Berserker Brew or Permanent Brew? Hardly anyone; Stronger Stimulant is THAT good.

An easy fix to this that I have worked on is to simply downgrade its buff effect to match that of Berserker Brew, while retaining the longer duration that it has in its current form. However, by giving it the weaker buff effects, it overall downgrades it while maintaining the intended purpose of the upgrade: to buff multiple towers around it. The original buffs that Stronger Stimulant USED to give will now be migrated into Permanent Brew, making the Tier-5 upgrade worth its price.

These changes I feel make the tower a lot more balanced overall without breaking the meta to such a drastic degree. Plus, it give further significance on the two upgrades surrounding it. If you only have one tower you want buffed, just stick to a Berserker Brew; need more than one tower buffed, then get a Stronger Stimulant... and then Permanent Brew stands out as the Tier-5 upgrade that it should be!

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 * Interesting idea, though I'm not so into nerfing Stronger Stim or any Alch buffs. Qwertyxp2000 II (talk &#124; contribs) 09:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)